This past Halloween, the first couple of alt-porn, Joanna Angel and Small Hands were wed by the Grim Reaper in what can only be described as a perfectly Burning Angel wedding ceremony. The two newlyweds sat down with HotMovies and talked Valentine's Day plans, Small Hands' special kitchen skills, and, of course, tattoos.

HM: Happy Valentine’s Day! Do you guys have any plans to celebrate this year?

Joanna: It’s our fist Valentine ’s Day as a married couple, so that’s kind of a big deal, right? Well, first off he’s going to do something really romantic and not have sex with anyone else that day.

Aaron: Yeah, my penis is reserved for my wife that day.

Joanna: People asked to book him and I was like… no.

Aaron: Is nothing sacred!?

Joanna: We’re gonna go get tattoos.

Aaron: Big shocker coming from us that we’re gonna go get tattoos.

Joanna: We’re going to get hearts on our fingers, just a little cute thing. Because we always said that instead of wedding rings we were going to get tattoo wedding rings, but then I decided that I actually wanted a real wedding. So we said that instead of getting a tattoo wedding ring we’ll just get a tattoo every year on our anniversary. I decided to jump the gun and get our first one on Valentine’s Day. I guess it’s not even our first matching tattoo together.

Aaron: Yeah, we have a few.

Joanna: It’s gonna be a heart.

Aaron: There’ll be wine and food involved as well.

Joanna: We’re gonna get tattooed and then we’re gonna get dinner.

Aaron: Real wild crazy shit!

The tattoos are wild! It’s a little bit more permanent than a wedding ring.

Aaron: They’re really fun too!

Your wedding pictures looked like you had a lot of fun, with the Nightmare Before Christmas theme and the Grim Reaper officiating. Did you incorporate any religious practices, like breaking the glass, into the ceremony?

Aaron: We did a few funs things, like we did break the glass.

Joanna: But not at the ceremony. There’s a whole story.

I would love to hear it!

Joanna: My mom obviously really wanted me to have a Jewish wedding, but I didn’t want to. I mean, Aaron’s not Jewish, and we just wanted to do a Halloween themed wedding. To make a long story short, we had the ceremony and the Grim Reaper did it, and then we all went to a restaurant, and we had music playing, and so my mom did all the Jewish stuff at the restaurant. It took up five minutes, maybe ten.

Aaron: No it was like half an hour. You are out of your mind, woman! [laughing] The point is we incorporated a few fun traditions. We cherry picked what we wanted to do but it was in no way a religious wedding, I would say. It was a rock’n’roll Halloween wedding.

Joanna: My family did pick Aaron up on a chair in the restaurant. That’s what Jews do at weddings, you have to get lifted up on a chair, so they lifted us up on chairs and sang the Horah.

Aaron: I had no clue what was happening. It was like, what is going on!?

Joanna: They just started out of nowhere, and there were other people in the restaurant. We had our own private area, but the restaurant was still open, and people were like, “What is going on?” My family, that’s just what they do. It was cool though! It was such a mix of people, because there was my family, and religious members of my family, and a whole bunch of porn stars, and then Aaron’s friends from growing up, and people from the music scene. It was probably the most interesting mix of people.

Aaron: And then the icing on the cake was it was Halloween so everyone was in costumes. Some of her uncles and aunts I didn’t even recognize because they were dressed as a mummy or something.

Joanna: They all came in costume which is crazy. I don’t have a “cool” family, like they’re all a bunch of dorks. I didn’t have the cool dad that gave me weed or bought my friends beer. I had a very traditional, normal straight-laced dad who told me my music was too loud and gave me a curfew. I didn’t have that kind of rock’n’roll biker dad or anything. The fact that they came in costume, because that’s what I told them to do-

Aaron: That was the dress code.

Joanna: That was fun, because I’ve never hung out with my family all in costumes. It was cool.

Yeah, it looked like a lot of fun. You guys did the Nightmare Before Christmas scene where Aaron was Jack Skellington and you were Sally, and it was super cute. Are there any other characters from literature or history or pop culture that you guys have fantasized about recreating for a scene?

Aaron: We constantly do all the time! Everything from Sons of Anarchy to Wednesday Addams from The Addams Family to The Grinch.

Joanna: Yeah I really liked The Grinch.

Aaron: We did a movie called How The Grinch Gaped Christmas and Joanna spray-painted herself green and was The Grinch. We did all of the dialogue in Dr. Seuss rhymes, and it was awesome.

Joanna: Usually if I have an idea I just do it.

Aaron: There’s usually nothing that we fantasize about, because they’re not fantasies for very long. They become reality very quickly.

Joanna: Sometimes things will come to me and we just do it. But the Jack and Sally one was my favorite. It was so romantic. It’s become the one that everyone remembers. At our wedding we had the little signing book thing, and we had a big picture of us as Jack and Sally, but with clothes on. It was a close-up of our faces kissing. And my parents were like, “Wow! What is that picture from?” And I was like, “Oh, that was us on Halloween last year!” “Wow, you guys get really serious about Halloween!” They know what we do, but we didn’t need to be like, “Yeah we fucked!” It was really funny and we were like, “Yeah, we get really serious on Halloween.”

Good communication is one of the most important factors to any relationship. Do you two notice any special needs to come up between you two because of your work?

Aaron: I think as time goes on it becomes easier. We know each other so well, and when I met Joanna she was already Joanna. She’s always done porn since the second I’ve known her in my life. The work part has always been present. It wasn’t like it wasn’t there and then it was. I think we’ve communicated pretty honestly and openly since day one. We just continue on that path and it works well for us. I don’t think there’s been any additional needs that have popped up. I mean, obviously if I’m gone for four days then she might have to get laid when I come home. But you know, that’s pretty normal I think.

Joanna: I think, not just for people who are dating in the adult industry, but everyone, the biggest problem in any relationship is people aren’t honest about their needs. Especially women! A lot of us women, we don’t pay attention to our own needs because we think it’s gonna push someone away. A lot of women get into relationships and they don’t want to act like themselves, because they’re worried that that’s not what the other person wants. I’ve noticed that it’s a common problem with a lot of women in respect to confidence and being happy and loving yourself.

We wanna be the “cool” girl.

Joanna: Yeah! And you know, that’s when people go crazy! If your needs aren’t being met, no matter how ridiculous your needs are, you need to be honest with yourself about what they are. And also, I just turned 36. I’m so happy that I met Aaron when I was 31, because if I had met him when I was 22 I wouldn’t have known what the hell to do. I think I really knew myself when I met him, so I can just say, “Hey, this is what I need today. As long as I have this, I’m not gonna be crazy!” And I know what those things are!

Aaron: And they usually involve coffee, hard-boiled eggs, hummus…

Joanna: Yeah! I think sometimes we lead crazy lives. I don’t do nearly as many scenes as Aaron these days, but I do scenes and he does scenes, and sometimes I just have to say, “Hey, this weekend we just need to be alone. We just need to be with each other and be alone.” I know what my threshold is, and what my limits are. I know what my needs are and I’m happy (and not embarrassed!) to say them out loud and Aaron is always happy to meet them. It works! And him as well, I know what’s important to him and what makes him happy and we’re just very open and honest with each other. I think that’s what makes any relationship work. Every friend I can think of, the reason their relationship stopped working is one person doesn’t want to tell the other person what they need to be happy. Two people have to make each other happy for a relationship to work no matter what they’re doing.

How did you guys meet?

Joanna: Through a friend. He used to perform, he went by the name of Brian Street Team.

Aaron: He’s a hometown friend of mine from San Diego, we grew up in the music scene together. When he started performing he met Joanna, and at some point he set us both up on a blind date with each other and he thought we would be good together, and guess what, it worked!

Was he at the wedding?

Both: Yeah!

When you’re not working what do you like to do together?

Aaron: We are never not working. But we like to cook, that’s basically what we do on a night that we don’t have to be out of the house. We’ll spend hours cooking.

Joanna: We’ll start talking about what we’re going to make for dinner at like 9 AM.

Aaron: If we don’t know what our dinner plans are by like 3 we just need to stop what we’re doing and address that situation.

Joanna: Both of us will be working from home and he’ll be working on a boxcover and I’ll be having meetings, and at some point we’ll have to stop.

Aaron: Holy shit, it’s 2 PM and we don’t know what we’re making for dinner!

Joanna: We’ll have to figure out what we’re doing. And then we’ll go to the supermarket and we’ll buy everything together and it’s really fun! We’ll cook together. The way we cook is really like the way our relationship is. He likes to do things I don’t like to do, and I like to do the things he doesn’t like to do.

Aaron: Joanna likes to sit and drink wine and tell me what to do.

Joanna: He’ll chop all the vegetables, and he’ll put everything in the oven and get everything ready and I come up with the recipe. Sometimes I do all the dirty work. Sometimes. But I hate chopping vegetables. Aaron’s so good at chopping vegetables.

Aaron: I’m sure your viewers are just riveted by this wild story.

Joanna: My aunt wanted to get us this food processor, I was like, “We don’t need one. Aaron is the best food processor.”

Aaron: This is so boring, now that I’m listening to this.

Joanna: He can chop anything! I like watching you chop vegetables! It’s sexy.

Aaron: Is that the wild answer you were hoping for? I mean, that’s a lie. We all have wild Studio 54 cocaine orgies with 17 of our friends. [laughing]

Do you guys have a signature dish that you like to make?

Aaron: We’re both pretty healthy eaters, so instead of making pizza with regular crust we’ll use cauliflower, or make bread out of almond meal. We’ll make classics but try to find healthier ways to make them. Clean them up a little bit.

How did you guys propose?

[laughing]

Aaron: We were working in the office and Joanna got booked to host a party in Las Vegas on Halloween, about two weeks before, and she said, “Hey! Wanna get married on Halloween?” And I said, “Are you serious?” And she was like, “Well, all of our friends will be there!” And we had been talking for years about how that was a day that would be so fucking cool to get married on. But it’s hard when you’re always working and traveling. You can’t plan something eight months ahead, because you don’t know when you’ll get booked. So nothing ever happened, and she was like, “Fuck it, let’s just make it happen!” In seven days we put together the whole thing.

Joanna: While I was out running errands I planned the whole thing and I came home and said, “Hey, so… you’re cool with this?” [laughing] He was like, “Uh… yeah!” I mean we were already talking about getting married, but we didn’t have a traditional proposal.

Aaron: We don’t do anything the way you’re supposed to.

Joanna: When we moved in together, I don’t even remember having a conversation about it. I think at some point I was like, “This is it, right? We’re in this forever? Ok, cool.”

Aaron: And that’s how it happened!

That’s kind of what I expected, to be honest.

Aaron: That’s why we did it the way we did it. There’s no rules, there’s no law that says, “You have to do a proposal this way.”

Joanna: It was actually really romantic. We went to the store and just bought rings together, and we both have the same rings. I really loved it. I had a lot of fun. It was cool that it didn’t have to be him looking around all year for that perfect thing that’s gonna make me cry. We just went to the store together and then we had lunch! We just bought rings! It was still very romantic; it was just our own kind of romance.

Do you guys have anything that you want to say to your fans? Anything that they can do to continue supporting you?

Joanna: Please watch our porn. And pay for it! Go to Burning Angel and watch our movies. All of them or any of them! Follow us on Twitter!

Aaron: Come get up in the mix and hopefully buy something!

Joanna: Please pay for your porn and watch it!

Aaron: Yeah, we like it when people watch it.

Joanna: We really do! We love our movies. We love the things that we do together.


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